Winning The Home Game

Join our conversation on “Winning the Home Game”—where legacy, safety, and true joy are built—and why it must outrank every away game of career, hustle, and hobbies. Drawing from years of coaching couples from NFL locker rooms to busy city life, we share a faith-first blueprint that puts God at the center and your spouse next, turning good intentions into daily, practical wins. 

 We unpack real-world examples—from a TV judge to a renowned pastor to a sports insider—highlight what happens when the urgent devours the important and how to reset before the drift becomes a wall.

You’ll learn why preventative alignment is cheaper than crisis repair, and how to guard your home from outside temptations by feeding it with time, laughter, and affirmation. Marriage doesn’t need perfection; it needs two willing people fighting for connection. 

 Share this with a friend who needs it, and leave a review with the one boundary you’ll set this week to win your home game.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:10

Welcome to the Marriage Game Plan Podcast, where we help couples build healthy relationships through faith, love, and strategy. I'm George.

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And I'm Tom Girl, and we are so glad you're here.

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For over 15 years, we've been helping coach couples from NFL locker rooms to everyday living rooms on how to win in marriage and not just a vibe.

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Whether you're newly wedded, season teammates, or somewhere in between, this podcast is your five-monthly huddle for real talk, practical plays, and fresh game plans to help you win your home game.

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And if you're single and hoping to be married one day, this is your podcast for practical insights and tools to help you enter into marriage with clarity, confidence, and goodness.

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So grab your spouse or just your headphones.

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And let's build a championship level marriage together. Hey, hey, welcome back to the Marriage Game Plan Podcast.

SPEAKER_02 1:00

We missed you.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

That's right. We missed you guys. And uh I I really wanted to start this episode by you remember how Martin Lawrence used to say, What up, what up, what up?

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Oh my goodness. Love Martin Lawrence.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Always, always wanted to do that. But listen, I was driving here this morning and uh there was this song on the radio that says it's a lovely day, right? You remember that song?

SPEAKER_02 1:22

Oh, yeah, I love it.

Home Game Vs Away Game

SPEAKER_01 1:24

Anyway, so we want to tell you it's gonna be a lovely day, not only in your car, but in your home as well. And today's episode, man, I'm excited because it's one of our staple episodes that we love to talk about. And today we're talking about a conversation about winning the home game, right? And it's not just enough to win in your away game. Now, in the away game, what we're talking about is uh your career, we're talking about your extracurricular activities, maybe it's your sports or maybe it's your hobbies, whatever that is. That's your away game, but you must win in your home game. So don't neglect the home game because you want to win the away game.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

So good, George. That is so good. The home game is even more important than the away game, because the home game is where the legacy, our legacy will live on from generation to generation. So that's so good.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

And when we think about that, right, like like when you say that generation to generation, right? That that means that what I'm putting in my home life has a greater impact than probably what I do on my job. Because let's face it, when we retire or when we no longer can work, what are they gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 2:35

They're gonna replace us.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

They're going to replace us. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

That just reminds me of that uh New York City um that CEO of uh the insurance company last year or a year before, you know, he got killed that morning, and then by the end of that day, they had already replaced him, you know, while his family is still grieving. So you because people are so replaceable, right? The only place where you're not replaceable is in your family, in your kids' lives, and in your spouse. So that is why your home game is so important to your legacy. Um so in order to win the home game, we have to make our spouse our priority. They have to be number one. After God, your spouse comes next.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

And that's very important. No, it is very important, right? Because sometimes I think we think that marriage or or having a relationship is our our idea. Right, right. We think, man, we made this up or we can make up our own rules. Yeah. In reality, if you're out there listening today, marriage is not your idea, it's God's idea. He made marriage, and we've got to go back to the designer, the originator, and ask him, why did you design it and what plays, like a coach, what plays do I run? If I'm gonna win my home game, what plays do I need to run, coach, in order to win the home game, right? And when we look at marriage, we like to say this this terminology, and I love when you say it. Go ahead, so go ahead and say it. Marriage is what?

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Marriage is God's best selfie because in our marriage, we are to reflect God's image to the world around us. And living in a selfie generation where we're obsessed with our best image of ourselves that we want to that's worthy enough to be posted online, um, we have to remember that we are an image of God and it needs to be reflected in his true nature and character. Now, I'm no good with selfies though, because my arms are way too short. I have to use two hands. I don't even know how people do stuff.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

We call it T-Rex selfies like that.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Uh now remember everybody, I'm laughing with her and not at her. So don't judge me, don't comment and write in, give me nasty mail. All right. So, but a part of that though is when we understand we're made in God's image, and if Mary marriage is a is is God's best selfie, sometimes when we try to do it in our own strength, we're not gonna make a best selfie. Right. Because we often mess up what God wants to perfect sometimes in our marriages. We just don't get it right. And and that's okay, we're only human.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

Right? We're we we we make mistakes, but God has a redemptive plan. Yes, he can. So if you're married and you're realizing now that your marriage or our or our being is made in his image, and because they're two people coming together as one, your marriage now reflects who God is. Instead of trying to make up our own thing, let's go back to the blueprint in which God gave us because that's how we can win the home game.

Culture’s View Of Marriage And True Purpose

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Yeah, and that's so that's so countercultural, right? Reflecting God's image, not knowing that God has a plan for marriage because he created marriage that he might know how we're supposed to get the most benefit and optimal you know, out of our relationships or how what is that relationship supposed to do for us? Because in our society today, we feel like marriage is our idea. You know, as a society, we think, oh, marriage is I choose, I I'm pursuing it for my happiness. It's about my needs, it's about who who helps me live my best life, who has the most money. You know, it's all about self-focus, not realizing that God has plans and purposes, and the happiness, true happiness, can only come by fulfilling the purposes and plans God has for us. So they're trying to skip all that other stuff and get straight to the happiness.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

And then a lot of times when people aren't happy anymore, then they keep looking for happiness on to the next thing, you know.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Yeah, yeah. In fact, in chapter two of our book, The Marriage Game Plan, we talk about uh the four ways in which God, at least four ways in which God created marriage. And if you want to go uh get that book, check it out, chapter two is a phenomenal chapter.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

That's right, yes. Because we live in in a fast-paced uh lifestyle, this is an important topic because what happens in the everyday shuffle, the marriage kits get keeps getting pushed to the back burner. Sure. Everything else takes precedence. Everything else is de seems to be more important than the colour.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

Tyranny of the urgent, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:34

Yeah, yeah.

Busyness, Boundaries, And Intentionality

SPEAKER_01 7:35

And if we if we always let stuff come in in before our marriage, right? Like let's say, man, pick up the dry cleaners, oh, we gotta gotta work, we gotta do our extracurricular activities, we gotta take the kids everywhere. I mean, I know so many parents, yeah, although they love each other, man, the kids and their soccer schedule and and their baseball schedule. It's like kids are doing so much these days, but if we let all of that come and and and make us more busy that we don't focus or prioritize our marriage, then we might be in a tough spot one day.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Absolutely. And I I don't think I think cell phones and social media have added a whole nother uh aspect of busyness too, because even when you're home, you're on your you're not home. Like it's we when we used to work nine to fives, you know, we had boundaries set.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

You go to work at nine, you come home at five, and then you shift into your home life. You know, I I remember working my nine to five, and every day I said, when I get to this bridge, I shift from thinking about work and I focus on my family, what I'm having for dinner, and I had a specific spot that said, think about the day, think about work, and then that bridge meant shift.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

I wish you would have told me that because I couldn't, you know, as a busy pastor, especially in New York City. I mean, I was like work, work, work, work, work, and we probably fell into some of that. And I know we're gonna get into that, but I think the key really is what we're saying is is intentionality. The key is intentionality, don't let the tyranny of the urgent uh allow you not to prioritize your marriage, your wife, your husband, your spouse, the one that you said we want to win together. Don't let things come in where you don't make that a priority, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:25

Yeah, and speaking, speaking of, you know, when we lived in New York City, our our lives became so super busy that I feel like we were like ships passing in the night because I was in private practice and I had to go in seek clients when they were off work.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 9:44

After work, and then you would, you know, as a pastor, you work during the day.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

But I had to get home with those kids because you were gone at night working with the average work person's schedule, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:54

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

They were less busy at night.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

That's right. So we were tag teaming, we would see each other in the hallway and and just be like, okay, see ya.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

But I gotta tell you, every time I saw you, I was like, whoop, there it is. My goodness. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Um, so yeah, so it's easy for busy families to miss each other, and it's easy for that relationship, that gap to subtly um sure show up, right? It's easy for that gap to happen if you're not intentional, right?

Burnout, Sabbatical, And Trusting God

SPEAKER_01 10:26

And that's and that's what we're talking about, being intentional. In fact, I remember uh there was a season, maybe about a year, where you kept asking me, like, what's wrong with you, right? I was home, but I wasn't present. You know, I would be at the dinner table and I would be kind of looking in the space, and that's because uh the you remember the burnout?

SPEAKER_02 10:44

Oh, yes, I remember that burnout.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

How can I ever like that was not a fun season because I was focusing more on the machine of ministry. Yes, yes, right. See, some pastors they don't realize this that ministry can become a machine, it could be something like a production line, and you're just always production, production, production. And unless you're delighting in God, unless you're prioritizing your family, then work can be ministry can be work, and not necessarily is it your delight, your honor to please your king.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

That's right, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

And so what I went with the mentality was probably just like a lot of business owners, a lot of CEOs, doctors, is I tried to go to New York City and outwork the work capital of the world. Yes, but I realized this you cannot outwork the work capital of the world. And so whatever I was doing, even for ministry, maybe, maybe you're in your business, maybe it's on Wall Street, or maybe it's uh running or managing a company, whatever it is, uh I ran ministry, but whatever you run, don't let it run you. You can prioritize, you can set boundaries in your marriage that you can be home when you need to be home or be present when you need to be present because I found myself although I was home, I was not available for you guys. And just the mental, the emotional angst that I was going through, I was not probably the best husband at that time or the best father.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

Yeah, and it was you you weren't by yourself. I didn't even aware, I wasn't even aware of the toll that it was taking on you because I was so preoccupied in my business. Sure. You know what I'm saying? So I wasn't checking for you, you weren't checking for me. We were just in our parallel lanes, just trying to grind it out.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

You know, I think what you're trying to tell everybody is you're no slouch, right? I was I was in New York City trying to take over the world and and you were building a private practice, and raising my kids in the concrete jungle. In the concrete jungle, but I wanted to say that part, right? Because you had your own private counseling practice in the middle of I I call it the crazies in in Times Square, is that you know, such busy lifestyle down in that area, but you were helping to really change and transform people's lives just by listening and encouraging, coaching. And so you you were doing it. And I think I think where we're going is is all this have to be a balance. That's right. Some of us we overdo it in our careers because we think, oh man, you know, especially men, we want to conquer something, we want to build something. And so if we're solely focused on that, then we can lose sight of maybe what other things should be a priority as well. So the key today, if you're out there listening, the key today is balance. You can't do uh everything at the same level. Some things have to be prioritized over other things, and especially the things that matter the most.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

Yeah. Well, right before we change courses here, I do want to even highlight that God is a part of this. I remember coming back from your sabbatical after getting burned out.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

What's the sabbatical? Just tell everybody.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

A sab sabbatical is where you take an extended amount of time off just so you can be refreshed in the Lord and restored. So you take a significant amount of time.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

I took the entire summer off.

SPEAKER_02 14:06

The entire summer off. And the funny thing is, when when you came back, when we came back, yeah, uh the church actually doubled in size.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Double. And so it hurt my feelings by the way. Because I was like, the church can't grow without me.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

But maybe I was in the way.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

Yes, and so we can't take God out of the picture. Like if he has called you to your career or your profession, he is he put you there. He is going to uh allow you to be productive, and you can't take him out of the picture by saying, I got this God, you sit on the back burner, and I'm gonna grind this out for you to the glory of God, and I'll let you know when you can tap in. Is you got to know that God is in control, he is sovereign, he has a plan for your life, and you have to just trust if you put his business first, he's gonna accelerate or prosper your business. Yeah, you know that's the scripture, right?

The Cost Of Neglect: Judge Mathis

SPEAKER_01 15:01

It says when we seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and his righteousness, right? Then he'll add all those other things to us, right? So let's talk about the dangers of not making your marriage a priority.

SPEAKER_02 15:14

Yeah, so if we don't put our spouse as a priority, what happens then, right? What happens when we focus on all these other things? There's then things will come in to take the place, right? Of your spouse.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

I'm loving this because we've got three real life examples, right? And and I know this sometimes when you tell me, like if a mentor tells me something, I'm kind of like, okay, you told me, but it's a real life experience of others or that I have to go through in which I really learn.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

Yes. If you know George and I at all, we love our court TV. That's how we learn the law. And I I would I think I have a uh YouTube law degree after watching all these judge shows. But uh Judge Mathis is everybody's uncle, you know, and we love him. We love him. And um, so he the I I caught a social media clip by TMZ about Judge Mathis' wife after 39 years filed for divorce. And so they were asking Judge Mathis, well, what happened? Because they thought surely he there's been infidelity or he's done something terrible for after 39 years that she would leave. And here's here's what Judge Mathis said, just to clear the air and the gossip. He says, Let me be a cautionary tale for men. When you neglect your wife, here's what can happen. For 39 years, my wife was third. I've been serving the community, I've been taping my shows, and I've been having fun with my friends. So his wisdom after after his wife after 39 years and his wife filing for divorce, he says, never be too busy, never have too much fun beyond your wife. I should have stayed home more and made my wife more of a priority. He says, I'm trying to get my wife back, but I have to show her that in my actions, not just my words. Wow. So that was like, whoa, Judge Mathis, who is just as busy as anyone else, just as successful as anyone else in this world, and he is learning a valuable lesson at his ripe old age, which is none of this is important if you lose your partner that you wanted to do life with. It's like you left them behind.

“Everyone Wants More Of You”: T. D. Jakes

SPEAKER_01 17:45

Yeah, and that's why we're talking about just prioritizing. We're not saying you can't work or you can't go out and make money or build a business. What we're saying is be balanced with it, right? And sometimes life lessons will teach us, and so maybe you're out there today and you're saying, man, I'm building this corporation, I'm building this company or this church. And don't be like Judge Mathis. We're not picking at Judge Mathis. We're saying let Unc be our example. And what we're saying is don't go out and just have fun after work, or don't go out and just, you know, travel and and build the empire without understanding that there's a king or a queen at home waiting for you to build a life and legacy and that will last from generation to generation.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

And and so I feel like the this example is the just the natural outcome of the emotional drift that can happen.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Yeah, emotional drift.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Yes, it's an emotional drift that happens. His wife starts to feel very disconnected from him and not prioritize, and then you feel like you're roommates and not teammates. Sure. And so after some years of that, sometimes we really don't have any feelings for our spouse. We we've done life independently. Sure. I you know, you have to find your own way at that point, and so you just you just stop being in relationships. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

It reminds me of conversations that I have with with our NFL players, right? In those locker rooms that, you know, if if the if the statistic is correct, which 70% of NFL marriages end in divorce, it doesn't start off that way, right? All those players start off to win in their marriage, but there's something that happens slowly over time, especially if you wait until after retirement to pour into your marriage. Sometimes you realize, man, the friendship is not there anymore, the emotional uh connection is not there. And so these things they don't happen all at once, they happen over time, and you never know when that time clock is running out. And so we just say prioritize your marriage and maybe start today by at going home and asking your spouse, do you feel like you're my priority? Do you feel like the kids in this family are my prior priority? Sure, I go out and make money, sure, I bring home the bread, but are you feeling like I am present enough in in this house. And so we've got another example, right? And uh this is this is one of our bishops, right? Bishop T D Jakes.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Yeah.

Work Intrusions: Adam Schefter Example

Presence At Home And Phone Boundaries

SPEAKER_01 20:06

And he was uh we caught him on a on a YouTube uh interview yeah and I think he was with his wife but he was talking about he was talking about uh discussing how to be successful at home and here's what came out of Bishop Jakes's mouth right he says we are not winning at home now that's that's a sober statement when a pastor says we're not winning at home he says this he says we're making the money we're climbing the corporate ladder we're in the C-suites we're doing you know we're making it big but he says however it's hard to be in a stable relationship whether it's marriage now this is my part whether it's married or dating it's hard to be in a serious relationship while you go after your dreams here's why because everyone wants more of you and you don't always have enough to go around and that's what I'm talking about like the tyranny of the urgent I re I remember when we were in New York City and and we were I was supposed to take you on a date night and somebody called and you know it's probably some CEO or actor or somebody and uh and they were calling because they needed counseling that night something some crisis had had had come on the stage and uh and I told you I said babe I think I'm gonna I think I need to counsel them tonight and you said no no no you're gonna call him and you're gonna tell him it took him more than one night to get in this and it's well you said more than one night to get in this mess and it's gonna take him more than one night to get out of this mess. Yeah yeah so what you were telling me was don't let all these other things right like Jake says that it's hard because everyone wants a piece of you and you don't have enough to go around and I wonder how many uh wives or husbands feel that things outside the home you're giving pieces here pieces there pieces here and you don't feel like you're you're really giving your spouse what you need in order to win at home and that's what we're talking about today. We're talking about winning the home game we're not saying you can't work and be successful in corporate America we're not saying you can't have all your fun and activities. We're just saying don't neglect the home because if Bishop Jakes is saying that we're not winning at home if we don't win at home man we're in real trouble as a society. And and and you know what I got one more yeah and it actually is in the NFL world in which we've been working for the last 16 years mentoring and coaching in marriage and being NFL chaplains but I was reading an article by The Spun and uh it talked about how the NFL insider right Adam Schefter uh somewhat sacrifices his marriage uh in order to go to the pinnacle of success in in his career and by no means am I sort of making light right of of what this man revealed uh actually on a YouTube channel. So the article was referring to the YouTube interview. Yeah and on that YouTube interview for the mental game podcast uh Adam he admitted that his relationship with his wife Sherry has changed over time over the years due to his work and he said that while they used to go to dinners with other couples or groups his work repeatedly forced him to leave dinners early or even cancel them abruptly. Yeah yeah right and I know bro I would be hung if I just said hey we're going out with our friends but because of work I'm canceling everything you you would probably say boy come here let me talk to you yeah especially if it I mean I can be graceful in certain moments but if it's a continual yeah you can be gracefully direct to it now don't act like you're just little sweet Tundra sitting over there you can you can just I will run out of patience with that yeah I will run out of patience with that because really we we get married because we want a partner we want to do life with someone that's the person we want by our side through the ups and downs and if we're not spending time together if we're not building a friendship then what are we doing you know as as a couple I mean if I'm feeling like I'm I'm single or independent and I'm doing my life you're doing your life what is the point what is the point of being married if you're not in relationship with your spouse. Yeah now for all of our listeners out there please again don't think I'm picking at Adam whatsoever because any one of us can fall into this but but what we're saying is we're not talking about what people do we're talking about God's best we're talking about prioritizing your relationship and your marriage we often say that we get married not to be in isolation right we get married because we want to be together right with someone that's that's we can go work but we also have to enjoy life together we've got to go party together and go on vacation together. And some of that has to be uninterrupted right because if every time the phone rang I remember you told me this yeah you told me to finish my calls in the garage because I would come in the house on the phone busy pastor and my kids would be ready at the door and I would just give them the heishmund like that like just wait I'm so important just wait on me. And one time you you you grabbed me by the collar no you were pretty rough with me that day but but I thank you for I couldn't reach your collar I probably grabbed you by your sleeve. You probably did you probably kick me in my knee or something like that. But but you said you said please don't come in the house anymore on your phone because your kids are ready to spend time they deserve that and that's what we're talking about. We're talking about presents we're talking about uh when you come in that door sometimes just cut the phone off or or leave it in a car or finish emails after the kids go to bed whatever it takes let me tell you something there's nothing like pouring into the next generation when they say I want to love a relationship a marriage like my mom and dad that's one of the greatest things you can ever leave your kids.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Absolutely so that natural so a na another natural outcome that happens when we don't prioritize our spouse it can lead to resentment and loneliness and when one spouse feels overlooked or devalued then that's when bitterness can creep in and bitterness can just start to build a wall between you and your spouse. Yeah I remember some close friends of ours he was shocked when his wife basically out of the blue he felt filed for divorce and she was really done and unbeknownst to him she had been building some walls and just stacking these bricks up and up and he didn't know she never shared it. But when that wall is up literally it is it's no love there. There's no compassion there. I've been coaching couples where I can't believe those vows and that beautiful wedding and how much they loved each other. They can say the most hateful things to each other when it gets to that point where that wall is between them. So we have to protect our marriage from that bitterness and resentment and that loneliness.

Resentment, Loneliness, And Walls

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Yeah no I I like how you're you're framing this right you're talking about if we don't do this there's some natural things that happen and you know as as the one who gets our car maintenance right I I know this is that if we don't if I don't take the cars in for regular alignment yes our cars often just go to the left or left or they go to the right and so so it's just a natural that we need to go and get it because if it if we go towards those natural tendencies we're gonna have wear in one area that's not supposed to be and so in in our marriage let me say this to you let me say it like this in marriage alignment when we naturally go in one direction we just need to go back in the other direction get alignment maybe have somebody to look under the hood maybe have somebody to to run some things to and just say man if I'm not prioritizing my wife or my spouse could be your husband um how what type of trouble can I get myself in where I'm gonna have costly repairs in the future so listen all these scenarios from Uncle Uncle Mathis right to Adam Sheffner or Chef Tur, sorry Chef and Bishop Jakes, all of these scenarios could lead to another thing. Yes and we don't like to talk about this but it definitely happens and that's temptation outside of the home right because if what we often say is if you don't take care of the home somebody else is waiting outside to take care of your home right and so we're we're we're really saying that when you cover those intimate moments whether it's dinner or whether it's date night when you prioritize that then there's there's this thing that when you feed into me I don't have time to look outside because I got it all home right I got like a this buffet of love this high five this this this affirmation this this this celebration at home that I don't need to go outside and look for affirmation or celebration. I can I I look to your loving arms and and babe I gotta tell you after 30 years of marriage it's my joy to come home to you. Like you're you're you're a best friend you're a cheerleader and I'm telling you I wouldn't be the man that I am today without you being in my corner when I got home.

SPEAKER_02 29:48

Amen and that's that's why we want to help couples we want them to have that home where they're not trying to get preoccupied with the kids or career but they actually enjoy each other enough that they want to come home because sometimes maybe we're pouring into all these things because home life is not happy right so this is why we're passionate about helping couples. We want you to create the proper home life so you can both thrive in your home your kids can thrive and you can be an example and reflection of of God's love that we have for one another you know and his reflection of his forgiveness like we we want to support you and help you do that.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

That's awesome. Yeah what we realize is that listen your spouse isn't looking for perfection they're looking for you to fight for connection and that connection is shown when you prioritize your spouse and put them numero uno in your life.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Yeah until next time we'll see you in the next episode and we'll see you in the next episode.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

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SPEAKER_02 31:02

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SPEAKER_01 31:10

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